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Funny that no one mentioned it - yesterday it was the feast of Our Lady of Covadonga, that is, the "Day of Asturias".
It was a non-working day, and events were held to celebrate Asturian identity. There were speeches from polititians and music concerts. Myself, I attended a demonstration claiming for self determination. Yeah, I am dreaming, but what is wrong with dreams?
8th of September - day of Asturias
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Terechu
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If it's not on TV it doesn't exist. September 8th was the Day of Asturias and the Day of Extremadura. While Extremadura did get some news coverage because of the unfriendly remarks their President, Rodríguez Ibarra, made about Catalonia and their continuous demands for privileges (remarks with which many of us agree), Asturias got none.
Two days later, September 11th was the Day of Catalonia. TV news coverage was at least 5 minutes on all TV stations. I am fed up to my backteeth!
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Lo que no sale en la tele no existe. El 8 de septiembre fue el Día de Asturias y el Día de Extremadura. Mientras que Extremadura tuvo algo más de cobertura en las noticias por los comentarios poco amables de Rodríguez Ibarra sobre Cataluña y sus continuas exigencias de privilegios (comentarios con los que muchos estamos de acuerdo), Asturias no tuvo ninguna.
Dos días despues, el 11 de septiembre fue el Día de Cataluña. Todos los telediarios de las principales cadenas les dedicaron al menos 5 minutos. Yo estoy hasta la coronilla!
Terechu
Two days later, September 11th was the Day of Catalonia. TV news coverage was at least 5 minutes on all TV stations. I am fed up to my backteeth!
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Lo que no sale en la tele no existe. El 8 de septiembre fue el Día de Asturias y el Día de Extremadura. Mientras que Extremadura tuvo algo más de cobertura en las noticias por los comentarios poco amables de Rodríguez Ibarra sobre Cataluña y sus continuas exigencias de privilegios (comentarios con los que muchos estamos de acuerdo), Asturias no tuvo ninguna.
Dos días despues, el 11 de septiembre fue el Día de Cataluña. Todos los telediarios de las principales cadenas les dedicaron al menos 5 minutos. Yo estoy hasta la coronilla!
Terechu
¿Y te extraña? Es triste pero es así, Asturias no pinta nada en España. Aquí hay autonomías de primera, de segunda y luego esta Asturias. Mientras en las demás tienen partidos nacionalistas que piden para su región, aquí parece que somos los más chulos, y no necesitamos nada, que solo nos valemos. En Cataluña, para encima, tienen al Maragal que pide casi tanto que un nacionalista. ¿y aquí qué? Un excomunista neomonárquico que solo sabe fartucase y esperar las ordenes de Madrid. Y los del PP, otro tanto. Aunque hay que reconocer que no superan al Psoe en esa materia. Así nos va. No soy nacionalista, odio el nacionalismo, pero hay que reconocer que las partes de España que van para arriba, son las que tienen conciencia nacionalista. (Yo soy republicano federalista). ¿Por otra parte, por que debe de ser el ocho de septiembre fiesta de Asturias? ¿Por ser el día de la virgen? ¿No existe separación iglesia estado? ¿No hay otra fecha (25 de mayo por ejemplo), con algún acontecimiento importante para nuestra región que pudiera servir como día "nacional" y que no coincidiera con el día de otra comunidad? No se. Yo a Asturias le veo poco futuro.
Un saludo.
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Transl. by Terechu
Does it surprise you? It's sad, but that's the way it is. Asturias has no say-so in Spain. There are first class Autonomies, second class ones and then there's Asturias. While the others have nationalist parties making demands for their regions, we over here act like the tough guys, we don't need a thing, we can fend for ourselves. In Catalonia they have Maragall to top it all, who is more demanding than any nationalist, and what have we got? An ex-communist, neo-monarchist who only knows how to fill his belly and await orders from Madrid. And those of the Popular Party the same, although we have to say that they do not surpass the Socialist Party in this matter. So that's how we fare. I'm no nationalist and I hate nationalists, but I have to admit that those regions of Spain that are thriving are those with a nationalist consicience. (I'm a federalist republican). Besides, why do we have to celebrate the Day of Asturias on September 8th? Because it's the day of the Holy Virgin? Isn't there a separation between Church and State? Isn't there another date (25th May, for instance) of importance for our region which we could celebrate as our "National" Day and that wouldn't coincide with the celebration of another Autonomous Community? I don't know. I don't see that Asturias has any future.
Un saludo.
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Transl. by Terechu
Does it surprise you? It's sad, but that's the way it is. Asturias has no say-so in Spain. There are first class Autonomies, second class ones and then there's Asturias. While the others have nationalist parties making demands for their regions, we over here act like the tough guys, we don't need a thing, we can fend for ourselves. In Catalonia they have Maragall to top it all, who is more demanding than any nationalist, and what have we got? An ex-communist, neo-monarchist who only knows how to fill his belly and await orders from Madrid. And those of the Popular Party the same, although we have to say that they do not surpass the Socialist Party in this matter. So that's how we fare. I'm no nationalist and I hate nationalists, but I have to admit that those regions of Spain that are thriving are those with a nationalist consicience. (I'm a federalist republican). Besides, why do we have to celebrate the Day of Asturias on September 8th? Because it's the day of the Holy Virgin? Isn't there a separation between Church and State? Isn't there another date (25th May, for instance) of importance for our region which we could celebrate as our "National" Day and that wouldn't coincide with the celebration of another Autonomous Community? I don't know. I don't see that Asturias has any future.
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Terechu
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Berodia, creo que no has vivido nunca en otra región de España. La propia Cataluña tiene zonas tan cutres y pobres que podrían ser del Tercer Mundo. Yo ya no viajo tanto, pero conozco todo el país y créeme, mejor que en Asturias se vive posiblemente en La Rioja y Navarra. En Euskadi más o menos y en el resto: ni de coña!
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Berodia, I believe you have never lived in another region of Spain. Catalonia itself has areas that are so rundown and poor that they could well be in the Third World. I don't travel as much as used to, but I know the whole country and believe me, you can probably live better in La Rioja and Navarra than in Asturias. In the Basque country more or less the same and the rest: no way in the world!
Saludos
Terechu
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Berodia, I believe you have never lived in another region of Spain. Catalonia itself has areas that are so rundown and poor that they could well be in the Third World. I don't travel as much as used to, but I know the whole country and believe me, you can probably live better in La Rioja and Navarra than in Asturias. In the Basque country more or less the same and the rest: no way in the world!
Saludos
Terechu
Hi,
Terechu, no me refería a calidad de vida, o que Asturias sea mas o menos atrasada respecto a otras comunidades. Yo contesté a tu comentario, que yo interprete como que lamentas la poca presencia de Asturias en España, su poco peso.
Saludos
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Translated by Bob
Hi,
Terechu, I wasn't refering to the quality of life, or that Asturias may be more or less behind compared to other [autonomous] communities. I replied to your comment, which I interpreted as lamenting the weak influence of Asturias in Spain, its small influence.
Greetings
Terechu, no me refería a calidad de vida, o que Asturias sea mas o menos atrasada respecto a otras comunidades. Yo contesté a tu comentario, que yo interprete como que lamentas la poca presencia de Asturias en España, su poco peso.
Saludos
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Translated by Bob
Hi,
Terechu, I wasn't refering to the quality of life, or that Asturias may be more or less behind compared to other [autonomous] communities. I replied to your comment, which I interpreted as lamenting the weak influence of Asturias in Spain, its small influence.
Greetings