Search Engine Censorship?

[Eli]

You are right Art, I don’t intend to change the way United Statesians call themselves, I might as well try to jump over the moon (btw checkout the 'la Luna de Paita' or 'the Moon of Paita' Paita is a town on the Peruvian northern dessert, the dessert climate, the latitude and the moisture of the Humboldt current conspire to create this very famous illusion, this IS NOT a digitally enhanced picture, this is a natural phenomenon. http://gallada.tripod.com/images/paita-lunallena.jpg ) all I try to do is raise the awareness of the issue. The rest, if it is to happen, it shall happen on it’s own.

That was a very interesting read Bob, I happen to agree with the section ‘Another Amerindian Root’ is the only one that makes sense and it follows tradition, people find a place learn what the locals call it and keep calling it a variation of that word in their own language. Kinda like Spain if we follow the history of the name the Greeks got to Iberia the land (as far as we know) had no name, the land was infested with rabbits that they (the locals) called Hesp, the Greeks called the land then Hisp as that sounded more ‘Greek’. In time the Romans got there and changed the name to something that sounded Latin, they called it Hispalis eventually the Castillians called themselves and their lands Hispania were the Hispanioles got their name and were we get ‘Hispanic’ from, but before that Hispania became España and Spain in English. That follows a logical progression over three millenia. The same is true of what is said about the name the locals had for their territory or the mountains of Nicaragua ‘Americ’ once transferred into Castillian ‘America’ makes sense. The rest is reminiscent of the very elaborate orbits scientists use to assign to planets trying to make them fit the motions they saw parting from the premise that Earth was the center of the universe.

Art I’m not suggesting that these words were introduced into English by contact with Spanish speaking people in southern countries. In fact the opposite is true, it was the lack of contact that allowed for the use of the word ‘American’ to describe United Statesians in English to survive for two centuries. While at the same time the rest of the world was also using the term to describe Americans in the entire continent. Those words were incorporated into English after the United Statesian-Mexican war, the lands the US took from Mexico came with the people, their customs and some of it’s language.

Shouldn't South Americans be up in arms, protesting that a European invention was foisted on them as their name?

I believe as I said above the name America derives from the Native American language of the Caribs, they used the word ‘Americ’ for the tall mountains from were the gold came from, Columbus and his crew simply kept on using a variation of that in Castillian ‘America’. That makes sense.

Maybe Southern Hemispherians should come up with a name created by themselves that honors their Pre-Columbian heritage.

Ha ha ha, got to say that made me laugh! That was funny... lol

what would that name be?

hmm interesting question... after my plans of world domination come to fruition I’ll have conquered all of the nations from Mexico to Argentina and create a new nation, that new nation will be called Terra. It’s inhabitants will become the Terricolas or Terrestrians, in English: the Earthlings. Then, United Statesians will be able to keep Americans for themselves.

[Eli]

It occurred to me that my comment about the orbits scientists came up with when they parted from the wrong assumption (the earth was the center of the Universe) may not have been clear. I've created a .gif (37kb) http://tinyurl.com/kc753 that better explains what I meant.

The first part depicts how they explain it and below what the orbits would've looked like
The second part a common misrepresentation (for ease of communication) of planetary orbits in use today
The third part a representation of the actual orbital paths of celestial bodies.

The point I was trying to make was that we can with extremely complicated explanations make anything fit whatever results we want, in reality however, the simplest explanations are usually correct.

[davidas]

We are into business of online marketing and we personally observe that google search engine does not manipulate results .

Although they make manual modification under certain circumstances.

The dispute began several weeks ago, when Steven Weinstock, a New York real estate investor and former yeshiva student, did a Google search on "Jew." The first site returned was Jew Watch, a site filled with short articles focusing on alleged Jewish conspiracies and other anti-Semitic topics, with headings such as "Jewish Controlled Press" and "Jewish Mind Control Mechanisms." The administrator of Jew Watch did not respond to an e-mail message requesting comment.

Weinstock has launched an online petition, asking Google to remove the site from its index. He said if Google receives 50,000 requests to remove the site, it will comply. As of late Tuesday, the petition had about 2,800 signatures.

"Google is the No. 1 search site, and the fact that the first search result would yield an anti-Semitic site is all too common in a growing era of increased anti-Semitism," he wrote in his introduction to the petition.

The petition site appeared to have been hacked on Wednesday, however. Clicking on links to view or sign the petition brought up pages with pornographic images, plus the message, "This guestbook is for The most LAMEST petition ever."

Google spokesman David Krane said the company's search results are determined by a complex set of algorithms that measure factors such as how many sites link to a given page. The company can't and won't change the ranking for Jew Watch, regardless of how many signatures the petition attracts, he said.

"Google's search results are solely determined by computer algorithms that essentially reflect the popular opinion of the Web," he said. "Our search results are not manipulated by hand. We're not able to make any manual changes to the results."

Krane said the ranking for Jew Watch is largely based on changing vocabulary patterns. "Jew" has been used less and less in mainstream society since Word War II, replaced by less culturally loaded terms such as "Jewish person." Google searches for "Jewish," "Jewish person" and "Jewish people" are all topped by pro-Jewish sites, including a number of Jewish dating services.

That's still not good enough for another online organization, however, which has launched its own effort to push Jew Watch off Google via "Google bombing," a technique that exploits Google's search methodology of basing rankings on how many sites link to a given page. Daniel Sieradski, through his influential Web log Jewschool, is urging visitors to pepper any sites they control with links to the entry on "Jew" in online encyclopedia Wikipedia.

Numerous other Google-bombing campaigns, ranging from pranks to a serious attempt to raise awareness of slain Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, have emerged, since Google began dominating the search market.

Krane said he wasn't familiar with the Jewschool campaign but that Google typically discourages such tactics to manipulate search results.

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[Art]

Thanks for that very interesting response, Davidas, and welcome to the forum!

Gracias por una respuesta tan interesante, Davidas, y ¡bienvenido al foro!