Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:33 pm
You are right Art, I don’t intend to change the way United Statesians call themselves, I might as well try to jump over the moon (btw checkout the 'la Luna de Paita' or 'the Moon of Paita' Paita is a town on the Peruvian northern dessert, the dessert climate, the latitude and the moisture of the Humboldt current conspire to create this very famous illusion, this IS NOT a digitally enhanced picture, this is a natural phenomenon. http://gallada.tripod.com/images/paita-lunallena.jpg ) all I try to do is raise the awareness of the issue. The rest, if it is to happen, it shall happen on it’s own.
That was a very interesting read Bob, I happen to agree with the section ‘Another Amerindian Root’ is the only one that makes sense and it follows tradition, people find a place learn what the locals call it and keep calling it a variation of that word in their own language. Kinda like Spain if we follow the history of the name the Greeks got to Iberia the land (as far as we know) had no name, the land was infested with rabbits that they (the locals) called Hesp, the Greeks called the land then Hisp as that sounded more ‘Greek’. In time the Romans got there and changed the name to something that sounded Latin, they called it Hispalis eventually the Castillians called themselves and their lands Hispania were the Hispanioles got their name and were we get ‘Hispanic’ from, but before that Hispania became España and Spain in English. That follows a logical progression over three millenia. The same is true of what is said about the name the locals had for their territory or the mountains of Nicaragua ‘Americ’ once transferred into Castillian ‘America’ makes sense. The rest is reminiscent of the very elaborate orbits scientists use to assign to planets trying to make them fit the motions they saw parting from the premise that Earth was the center of the universe.
Art I’m not suggesting that these words were introduced into English by contact with Spanish speaking people in southern countries. In fact the opposite is true, it was the lack of contact that allowed for the use of the word ‘American’ to describe United Statesians in English to survive for two centuries. While at the same time the rest of the world was also using the term to describe Americans in the entire continent. Those words were incorporated into English after the United Statesian-Mexican war, the lands the US took from Mexico came with the people, their customs and some of it’s language.
I believe as I said above the name America derives from the Native American language of the Caribs, they used the word ‘Americ’ for the tall mountains from were the gold came from, Columbus and his crew simply kept on using a variation of that in Castillian ‘America’. That makes sense.
hmm interesting question... after my plans of world domination come to fruition I’ll have conquered all of the nations from Mexico to Argentina and create a new nation, that new nation will be called Terra. It’s inhabitants will become the Terricolas or Terrestrians, in English: the Earthlings. Then, United Statesians will be able to keep Americans for themselves.
That was a very interesting read Bob, I happen to agree with the section ‘Another Amerindian Root’ is the only one that makes sense and it follows tradition, people find a place learn what the locals call it and keep calling it a variation of that word in their own language. Kinda like Spain if we follow the history of the name the Greeks got to Iberia the land (as far as we know) had no name, the land was infested with rabbits that they (the locals) called Hesp, the Greeks called the land then Hisp as that sounded more ‘Greek’. In time the Romans got there and changed the name to something that sounded Latin, they called it Hispalis eventually the Castillians called themselves and their lands Hispania were the Hispanioles got their name and were we get ‘Hispanic’ from, but before that Hispania became España and Spain in English. That follows a logical progression over three millenia. The same is true of what is said about the name the locals had for their territory or the mountains of Nicaragua ‘Americ’ once transferred into Castillian ‘America’ makes sense. The rest is reminiscent of the very elaborate orbits scientists use to assign to planets trying to make them fit the motions they saw parting from the premise that Earth was the center of the universe.
Art I’m not suggesting that these words were introduced into English by contact with Spanish speaking people in southern countries. In fact the opposite is true, it was the lack of contact that allowed for the use of the word ‘American’ to describe United Statesians in English to survive for two centuries. While at the same time the rest of the world was also using the term to describe Americans in the entire continent. Those words were incorporated into English after the United Statesian-Mexican war, the lands the US took from Mexico came with the people, their customs and some of it’s language.
Shouldn't South Americans be up in arms, protesting that a European invention was foisted on them as their name?
I believe as I said above the name America derives from the Native American language of the Caribs, they used the word ‘Americ’ for the tall mountains from were the gold came from, Columbus and his crew simply kept on using a variation of that in Castillian ‘America’. That makes sense.
Ha ha ha, got to say that made me laugh! That was funny... lolMaybe Southern Hemispherians should come up with a name created by themselves that honors their Pre-Columbian heritage.
what would that name be?
hmm interesting question... after my plans of world domination come to fruition I’ll have conquered all of the nations from Mexico to Argentina and create a new nation, that new nation will be called Terra. It’s inhabitants will become the Terricolas or Terrestrians, in English: the Earthlings. Then, United Statesians will be able to keep Americans for themselves.